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da ([personal profile] da) wrote2006-05-09 07:25 pm
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grrrr.

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I tend to think that telling computers from humans has gotten to be too difficult a problem, if this is the sample text they expect a human to translate.

Just sayin'.
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[personal profile] chezmax 2006-05-09 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
.. Is.. that a lambda?

[identity profile] da-lj.livejournal.com 2006-05-10 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
...or... katakana?
...or two overlaid letters?

beats the daylights out of me.

[identity profile] pekmez.livejournal.com 2006-05-10 01:19 am (UTC)(link)
hmm, I think it's a Hebrew gimel, http://www.derech.org/gimmel.html
Funny, that's not on my keyboard! ;-)

Yes!

[identity profile] da-lj.livejournal.com 2006-05-10 01:42 am (UTC)(link)
ג !

I just discovered, it's incredibly difficult to paste a gimmel from the browser, and then type something else, because the something else wants to go to the left. Then when the something else is roman alphabet, it gets all screwed up about where to put the cursor.



Re: Yes!

[identity profile] pekmez.livejournal.com 2006-05-10 12:51 pm (UTC)(link)
You just discovered one of the joys inherent in editing things like our
wedding program (eventually LaTeXified, though even that had its
issues along the way) and our Passover haggadah (not yet done in LaTeX)
in OpenOffice!

damn editors that don't know how to mix left-to-right and right-to-left
languages.

Re: Yes!

[identity profile] melted-snowball.livejournal.com 2006-05-10 01:45 pm (UTC)(link)
One of my colleagues (who is an American who lived in Israel for several years) does a fair amount of research on this topic.

[Too bad he's a bit of a Brazil nut...]

Re: Yes!

[identity profile] da-lj.livejournal.com 2006-05-10 02:25 pm (UTC)(link)
But he's a nice Brazil nut. ;)

[identity profile] dr-tectonic.livejournal.com 2006-05-10 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
My guess is AF7sV22.

I think the real answer is "requiring users to demonstrate human visual pattern recognition is not an effective way of solving whatever problem you're trying to solve, since anyone who's motivated can hire a human visual cortex for pretty cheap."

[identity profile] melted-snowball.livejournal.com 2006-05-10 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
It is sort of funny: I have to assume it's the only one of Manuel Blum's brilliant ideas (and he's had a bunch) that was defeated by globalism.

[identity profile] da-lj.livejournal.com 2006-05-10 01:52 am (UTC)(link)
yyyyessss. I can see that lower-case s now.

I should've hired a better visual cortex.

[identity profile] epi-lj.livejournal.com 2006-05-10 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
I actually just posted about this to a mailing list. :) "Are you trying to determine if I'm a replicant or a lesbian, Mr. Deckard?"

[identity profile] da-lj.livejournal.com 2006-05-10 02:12 am (UTC)(link)

"Let me tell you about my mother."

[identity profile] melted-snowball.livejournal.com 2006-05-10 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
Maybe it's those random weird symbols from Sneakers.

[identity profile] da-lj.livejournal.com 2006-05-10 01:42 am (UTC)(link)
or the matrix? ...which I suppose was actually derivative of sneakers.
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[personal profile] chezmax 2006-05-11 11:50 am (UTC)(link)
Matrix characters were just backwards katakana, iirc :)

[identity profile] earthling177.livejournal.com 2006-05-10 09:32 am (UTC)(link)
I've been to a couple of sites where I couldn't make heads or tails of the pix -- luckily, they had to comply to some disability-act or another, so they *also* had a link you could click that would read the text to you out loud, so if you can hear it you can type it. Very strange.

[identity profile] da-lj.livejournal.com 2006-05-10 01:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I've never resorted to that. but I'm certainly glad they have to do that too.