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"And they covered up the sun
Until the birds had flown away
And the fishes in the sea
Had gone to sleep"
Excellent concert. Andy and Vince still know how to put on a good show. They played a lot of older songs, and only one d. and I agreed that we missed hearing ("Solsbury Hill", which if you haven't heard it, and you like the Peter Gabriel, you may enjoy as well).
We had dinner at Jamie Kennedy's Wine Bar, and watched our food be prepared mere feet away. Mmm, fresh french fries. Mmm, local asparagus with poached egg and hollandaise.
In all, a nice evening. I only wish I'd been able to go to a certain birthday party that also happened this evening, with two (relatively new) friends from Perl circles.
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In the car ride down, d. and I discussed Focus on the Family and what would happen if they decided that sexual orientation wasn't a choice after all, and therefore they wouldn't need to try make those wacky "ex gay" claims. Essentially, conservative acceptance of conservative homosexuals (who find a single partner, settle down in the suburbs, and have kids). One of d.'s comments was that then their Focus would turn specifically to people who weren't "normal enough" and that might be worse than the current culture war. Particularly for trans and bi people.
And the current sharp division gives us a chance to develop a culture of our own, which has been good, in terms of people choosing their own culture, what parts people want to keep, etc.
I think that the current culture war, which is potentially re-enacted in every conservative family that has a G/L/B/T family member, isn't the only way we can develop our own culture. It could be less oppositional, possibly more constructive; possibly having more interchange with so-called straight people. What I'd really like to see is a greater Queering of straight culture. I don't know. That might happen when there's a concurrent arguement over whether gay people are choosing to be gay. But I don't think so, not as much as if people generally agreed that orientation wasn't entirely a choice.
But at the same time, I am quite worried that the religious right would concentrate on the people who "could" be "normal" but are much happier not being so.
Blah. Time for sleep.
Until the birds had flown away
And the fishes in the sea
Had gone to sleep"
Excellent concert. Andy and Vince still know how to put on a good show. They played a lot of older songs, and only one d. and I agreed that we missed hearing ("Solsbury Hill", which if you haven't heard it, and you like the Peter Gabriel, you may enjoy as well).
We had dinner at Jamie Kennedy's Wine Bar, and watched our food be prepared mere feet away. Mmm, fresh french fries. Mmm, local asparagus with poached egg and hollandaise.
In all, a nice evening. I only wish I'd been able to go to a certain birthday party that also happened this evening, with two (relatively new) friends from Perl circles.
---
In the car ride down, d. and I discussed Focus on the Family and what would happen if they decided that sexual orientation wasn't a choice after all, and therefore they wouldn't need to try make those wacky "ex gay" claims. Essentially, conservative acceptance of conservative homosexuals (who find a single partner, settle down in the suburbs, and have kids). One of d.'s comments was that then their Focus would turn specifically to people who weren't "normal enough" and that might be worse than the current culture war. Particularly for trans and bi people.
And the current sharp division gives us a chance to develop a culture of our own, which has been good, in terms of people choosing their own culture, what parts people want to keep, etc.
I think that the current culture war, which is potentially re-enacted in every conservative family that has a G/L/B/T family member, isn't the only way we can develop our own culture. It could be less oppositional, possibly more constructive; possibly having more interchange with so-called straight people. What I'd really like to see is a greater Queering of straight culture. I don't know. That might happen when there's a concurrent arguement over whether gay people are choosing to be gay. But I don't think so, not as much as if people generally agreed that orientation wasn't entirely a choice.
But at the same time, I am quite worried that the religious right would concentrate on the people who "could" be "normal" but are much happier not being so.
Blah. Time for sleep.
